As you guys can tell, I take Leonardo's quote ("Art is never finished, only abandoned") quite seriously. This particular piece was started in the winter of last year and I abandoned it before I was 100% happy.

Fast forward to a few days ago and I was modeling objects for another new project and the idea came to me how I might "improve" this one.

I hope you like the new render. The old versions are still in the Pickle Jar so see what's changed.

8.31/10 rating (100 votes)

Pickle Jar Variations what's this?

8.11/10 rating (134 votes)

7.87/10 rating (52 votes)

8.50/10 rating (30 votes)

Member Comments

the original 2 had defined depth to them. this one the depth, i can not quite focus on.

Thu September 18, 2014 at 7:08 pm

You've got a version on the Member Updates page with a bit of light on the steps--I like that one because I can tell for sure that they *are* steps and that they're not submerged; also it really shows off the carving on the one step the light falls on. Is this one your "final-final" version, or is it the one on Member Updates?

Also, I think the translucent vine-covered rounded object is a *head*--a monumental quartz (or other clear stone) head, facing left, much worn by time. To me it definitely has eye-sockets and the bridge of a nose, the latter being what distinguishes it from a skull. (A crystal skull would've been campy, IMO...) I've seen monumental heads in many of your earlier works ("Visage", "Regis" and others), and they've always fascinated me with their echoes of Ozymandias; I like them as much as I like your planetscapes.

Sat August 30, 2014 at 11:52 pm

"Beautiful on a Surface Pro 3"
This looks stunning on the screen of my surface pro 3 and I have had several people comment on it however the edges are missing due to the 3:2 format. I love your work and I finally have a display worthy of it! Please render for it. Thanks in advance.

Sat August 30, 2014 at 11:14 pm

"New Resolution"
Any chance we can start seeing wallpapers in the native resolution of the surface pro 3 (2160x1440)? Can't really scale any properly with the 3:2 ratio it uses. Thanks!

Tue August 26, 2014 at 1:54 am

Completely reminds me of Stranglethorn Vale in World of Warcraft.

Don't judge! :)

Mon August 25, 2014 at 8:09 pm

"Aren't you sneaky!"
So okay, I take back the part about "the missing leopard." :)

Sat August 23, 2014 at 12:33 pm

I like the new version. It took me a while to find that scene element from the original but I won't let the cat out of the bag and spoil it for everyone else. I like it better with the ruins as they are now. Excellent work, Ryan.

Sat August 23, 2014 at 10:09 am

"Great changes, but...."
As I mentioned in the Work-in-Progress area, IMO the stairs are a big improvement over the pond; I love the added detail and the strands of ivy. Also, as I mentioned, after Kana pointed out the large vine-covered boulder to the mid-right, I can't NOT see it, and I've figured out why it's more noticable now -- in FW3, the bottom isn't covered with as much greenery, so more of the boulder shows. I vote for replacing it with foliage and the missing leopard.

Fri August 22, 2014 at 2:51 pm

This one is much better than the previous renders. Very nice

Fri August 22, 2014 at 10:36 am

"Pretty sweet. A relaxing view."
I can imagine sitting on a vine covered bench or wall, staring into the light with an clear mind for hours.

BTW missing 1440x900 render. Please?

Thu August 21, 2014 at 8:11 pm

The WIP is definitely a winner. I've said it before and will again, you have an exceptional talent for landscapes. This reminds me of the movie Apocalypto.

Thu August 21, 2014 at 4:51 pm

Here's an updated version that isn't quite ready for the main gallery.... I've removed the water (which I was never 100% certain about) and added some vine covered steps.

Thu August 21, 2014 at 10:38 am

First the boring nit-picky stuff: The foreground is still a little claustrophobic. There's some graininess in the sun beams which breaks the fourth wall. I don't know if it's possible to solve that with your current tech, but it's more obvious in this piece than others.

Improvements over previous versions: Light levels feel more realistic and the human structure is more obvious and tells more story. I particularly like the water in the foreground which helps justify the viewers' presence in the setting. Either I'm on a river or stream which runs near/through this structure, or a pool has formed within since the structure went into disrepair. There's also a neat correspondence between the hole in the tree canopy which lets the god rays through and the broken roof of the structure. Maybe something big came through and did the damage and the trees still haven't grown back that far? Or maybe the canopy hole is there because the remnants of the structure prevent them from growing any closer.

Overall: As with all my favorites, what is most interesting is what is not shown. What was this thing? What clues are obscured by foliage or my limited perspective? Is this in any way connected to The Shaded Path ( or Canopy Creek ( Etc. I like when art lets me do some of the work.

Thu August 21, 2014 at 10:16 am

I love the new version. It adds so much more depth and meaning to the image when compared to the previous versions.

Thu August 21, 2014 at 6:00 am

I'm torn between the old & the new, here. I'm loving the new contrast and the darker colors. Much more natural-looking. However, your description is a bit less fitting, now. I liked the pillars, as if it was a road leading to an ancient civilization - the forgotten WAY. This is now a forgotten town or civilization, not road. Nit-picky, I know. The newest one will stay on my wall, vs the old.

Oh, and the rock, or crumbled statue, whatever it is center-right has too much contrast between the substrate beneath and the vines growing on it. More detail of the statue, or less of the vines.

Keep it up! :)

Wed August 20, 2014 at 6:22 pm

I prefer your other versions of this one. For me it would have been fine with a little less foreground foliage. The ancient ruins are great just don't lie the foreground.

Wed August 20, 2014 at 1:07 pm

"Love it!"
All it needs is a guy in a hat with a whip swinging over the top. I love the lost city jungle look!

Though a leopard would be nice. :D

Wed August 20, 2014 at 10:04 am

"@Lester D"
The leopard isn't in this render - look at Forgotten Way 1 in the pickle jar. :)

Tue August 19, 2014 at 7:49 pm

No offense, but I liked the final 2013 version MUCH better than this. It wasn't quite a favorite (a lot of your other pictures offer very stiff competition for favorite status lol), but it was close.

Whereas now it seems distinctly average at best. I'm also not a fan of images that contain a really HUGE brightness difference between one area and another. It would work better if the foreground were brighter and the opening were less intense.

My last comment is that, while I appreciate the intricacy and detail of it, the pattern on the stone wall immediately makes me think of spiders. And also wasps. Both of which being things I'd rather not be reminded of, lol.

I gave it a 6.

Tue August 19, 2014 at 7:34 pm

Lester D
"Sunset version"
Nice one Ryan. How about a sunset version?

And ... what Leopard???? I can't see any leopard :(

Tue August 19, 2014 at 6:21 pm

"Loving the colours, but there's something about that wall..."
Hello Ryan, long time member, first time commenting though :) I really like the colour scheme in this variation, the shadows are just fantastic! I can't help but stare at the wall though; for something that was overgrown in a forest, the cut on the wall looks too perfect and it's drawing my eyes to it, maybe if it looked a little more broken off with some more roughed edges it would be more subtle. Please keep up your amazing work!

Tue August 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm

...I think I'd prefer it without the water. The one thing I thought the previous versions had going for them was that they put the viewer on this lushly overgrown path in the forest... The stream is a barrier, and it's even a little odd=looking because it's running parallel to the bridge instead of under it. I like the bridge; it could be passing over the gap between the two distinct landmasses in the picture instead... As it stands, the scene is intriguing but not inviting; I'm unsure whether the "path" is supposed to be running ahead of me (as in the dry versions) or across me (as in this one).

Tue August 19, 2014 at 3:26 pm

"Much better"
I like this one much better than the first (which had a "too green" which made it feel very fake). If you do add the cat in the dual screen, can you make it so the nose isn't weird. the placement of the leaf in the last version took on the appearance of a nose and made everything seem misaligned.

Tue August 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm

"Love it"
Very happy you returned to this one, Ryan. I love the improvements, particularly the ruins you've added and the way you've framed the sunlit area. Definite 10.

Tue August 19, 2014 at 11:38 am

"Thanks JM"
The links should work now.

Tue August 19, 2014 at 10:55 am

"Broken Link"

Tue August 19, 2014 at 10:42 am

Greg in KC
"sorry for the dupe post."
sorry for the dupe post... my browser did something funny when I tried to comment without being logged in.

Fri February 1, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Greg in KC
Ryan, the leopard did make me jump when I first noticed it. I loaded up the tri-screen version, and I was looking around and noticed the statue/rock pile on the right panel... then was scanning back left and litterally jumped when I saw the leopard. Well done!

Fri February 1, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Greg in KC
Ryan, the leopard did make me jump when I first noticed it. I loaded up the tri-screen version, and I was looking around and noticed the statue/rock pile on the right panel... then was scanning back left and litterally jumped when I saw the leopard. Well done!

Fri February 1, 2013 at 1:25 pm

The leopard is supposed to creep you out ;) Really though, anything on the side-frame of a multiscreen image is going to be stretched out a little. That's just how Vue works unfortunately...

Fri February 1, 2013 at 9:12 am

"uncanny valley"
The leopard is giving me an "uncanny valley" problem. I'm probably going to cut down a larger image to make a differently framed dual screen. That leopard is creeping me out. It's off in some way.

Fri February 1, 2013 at 6:47 am

"Overwritten version"
I have all the resolutions of the version that was overwritten, thought I don't know how to securely share them with other members.

Thu January 31, 2013 at 11:38 pm

While this is lovely, I have to agree with Sebastian. There just isn't enough variation in the green, and its lack makes the image a little flat.

Thu January 31, 2013 at 4:25 pm

"Much better now"
... but still too green (there's no pleasing some people :D). Especially the jaguar is a very nice touch. IMHO, some more variation in the greenness of trees (you know not every tree has green leaves right?) or the background wouldn't miss, but I guess you can't have everything. :)

Wed January 30, 2013 at 3:10 am

Spotted him on the dualscreen. Excellent touch. Reminds me of the movie Apocalypto; one of my all-time favorites. This image begs for a night version. Complete with tiki torches and you name it.

Tue January 29, 2013 at 4:50 pm

Wow - just saw the leopard...have had this on my desktop for days - lol.

Tue January 29, 2013 at 12:40 am

<3 the pickle jar version but updated to the dual screen today ~ and "bam"! Sleeping kitty hiding in the bushes. Ryan~ Thanks for all you do. (P.S. Keep the fantasy going; I get enough reality when I look up from my monitor O.~)

Mon January 28, 2013 at 6:45 am

I love it. I hear jungle birds and feel the steamy humid air. Just what the doctor ordered as we hunker down for winter's last hurrah.

Sun January 27, 2013 at 9:23 pm

"v.2 update"
Thank you ryan :)

Sun January 27, 2013 at 3:17 am

".zip files in pickle jar"
see??? I'm not the only one who'd like to see them there!!!! but for once in my life I've got them both--one is labeled "no eyes"!!!!

Sat January 26, 2013 at 6:59 pm

"Overwritten Version"
I actually liked the overwritten version more than the version that overwrote it, mainly because it was shadier. I'm glad I saved it before it was overwritten, but sad that now I won't be able to download it in any other size. :( Can't you bring the overwritten version to the Pickle Jar?

Sat January 26, 2013 at 4:55 pm

"Green and warm."
Thanks Ryan! Needed a little green for my Alaska Winter. P.s. 1440x900 missing for my old worries.

Sat January 26, 2013 at 3:46 pm

"re: "The Eyes""
Sorry, those were a mistake. I just was not happy with how the arch turned out in the overwritten version.

Sat January 26, 2013 at 3:07 pm

The new V2 version is stunning. Many thanks. It looks amazing! :)

Sat January 26, 2013 at 2:17 pm

""bring back the eyes!!!!""
I thought I was the only one that saw those.

Sat January 26, 2013 at 11:03 am

"bring back the eyes!!!!"

Sat January 26, 2013 at 10:38 am

I've added the 1680 x 1050 render Not sure how it went missing...

Sat January 26, 2013 at 9:47 am

No more 1680 x 1050?

Sat January 26, 2013 at 9:39 am

"v.2 update"
I overwrote version 2 with an improved render late last night. The new version moves the arch slightly to the left (for suab) and adjusts the vegetation growing on the broken stones.

Sat January 26, 2013 at 9:24 am

"There gone!"
Methinks the creature either went back to sleep or Ryan made a minor change. Either way, its not so creepy now. hehe

Sat January 26, 2013 at 9:24 am

"Better Lighting But Archway..."
I think the lighting is much better than the first one which is now in the pickle jar. However, the archway doesn't like right to me. With the center missing, I think the pillars would fall down. Also, they took on the appearance of cactus as another person mentioned. Perhaps if there was more stone and less moss, it would be more clear what it is. But overall beautiful!

Fri January 25, 2013 at 8:41 pm

"Second coming"
This new version is WAY better, and the first wasn't bad at all. When I'm ready for spring on my desktop, this is going into the wallpaper rotation.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 7:33 pm

"thanks Jenanne and JMK"
thought I was the only one who saw the "eyes"--shades of "Garg"!!! had almost decided they were a figment!!! Seriously--I really like this version!!!

Fri January 25, 2013 at 5:25 pm

"Much Better Lighting"
The lighting in v.2 is much better! I continue to love how much green this one has.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 3:52 pm

"8/10 It's almost there!"
I love the new title, since this doesn't look much like a road. The foliage is much better in this render -- more detail and brighter colors. However, I think it's still a little too bright and washed out in the background. A bit more detail and some sun rays would really bring the background to life (perhaps something on the order of Canopy Creek Spring, Untouched, or Lord of the Forest?). Also, it didn't bother me until JMK in CT mentioned it, but the two yellow flowers at the top of the right-hand pillar do resemble glowing eyes. This is going to be a favorite.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 3:13 pm

For some reason I think something is looking at me from the top of the right pillar.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm

"Turned out awesome"
I've noticed that usually when there are plants and such up close the pixels really come out and the picture ends up looking like a cutscene from a 90's RTS game. But this came out super nice. Cant wait for a night version if there will be one.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 2:06 pm

"Much Better"
Not sure when the change went up but this version is much better than the last. The other felt too washed-out and bright in a way that doesn't jive in my mind with the somewhat wistful concept of something forgotten.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm

Much Much better! I didn't load the "bright" version but this one is an improvement by far! Thanks! By the way is there a version out there with just the bottom quarter showing? When I scroll up I the the bottom quarter with all the plants and flowers an I am simply knocked out by how vivid it looks!

Fri January 25, 2013 at 1:58 pm

This version is amazing.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 12:45 am

I love the original version and I love the tone-downed version even more.... I only which the pillars were centered :) Maybe its weird but the current position (a little to the right) makes me nervous :D

Fri January 25, 2013 at 12:17 am

"I don't get it..."
It's green and all, and pretty, as all DB wallpapers are, but "The Forgotten Way/Road"? What am I missing? The foliage grew over the path? Is that a broken archway in the background that has been overgrown with vines, two cactuses, or two giant phallic symbols? This one just doesn't do much for me. Over my head.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 12:16 am

"Still 8/10"
Although the lighting is better the archway trees are now to dark for me and looks like two large menising figures to me so it's still only and 8 out of 10 render for me. Love the rest of the render though.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 12:14 am

"phenomenally greenish!"
And yes, thanks for the toned down version. It is now much easier on the eyes to gaze down the "Forgotten Way".

Fri January 25, 2013 at 12:03 am

Roberto De
It's very nice but IMHO there is too much light or perhaps there's too muck green. I can't make up my mind about it. But I love the composition! Nice job.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 11:24 am

Roberto De
It's very nice but IMHO there is too much light or perhaps there's too muck green. I can't make up my mind about it. But I love the composition! Nice job.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 11:24 am

Roberto De
It's very nice but IMHO there is too much light or perhaps there's too muck green. I can't make up my mind about it. But I love the composition! Nice job.

Fri January 25, 2013 at 11:24 am

Sorry, I forgot something: For me it's absolutely no problem that there are no animals to be seen. The scene looks lively enough with all the vegetation around. I personally wouldn't be delighted to see an elephant covering half of the picture... :-D

Fri January 25, 2013 at 9:26 am

"Bright green"
The setting really is nice, especially for a cold winter day :-) I'm looking forwand though to see your tweaked version which hopefully will not be so green and bright. This shouldn't be a problem for you, however. I was able to create a version that works for me, just with a few clicks of color regulation in GIMP, so yours is going to be much better, I'm sure of that ;-)

Fri January 25, 2013 at 9:23 am

"Not my favorite"
I'm not really convinced. Maybe because it's way too monotonously green? A little bit of blue? Some clouds, somewhere? Others have mentioned it, maybe some animals? As it stands now, too green and too sterile...

Fri January 25, 2013 at 8:37 am

This is beautiful and like the color very much. Kind of reminds me of an environment from “Alice in Wonderland” or the upcoming “Oz The Great and Powerful”. I did notice it seems to be overcast or diffused lighting. I would be curious to see how this would look with some beams of light shining through and illuminating some mist, pollen or whatever else floats through the air in these areas. :=)

Thu January 24, 2013 at 11:16 pm

Eel River
Kind of allegorical really. For so long, you wandered aimlessly in "Sleepwalker Woods" and now you're back on "The Forgotten Road." I wonder where this overgrown and long forgotten road will lead you next. Anyway, welcome back, Ryan!

Thu January 24, 2013 at 11:12 pm

This render is making me long to get out side and plant things and pot flowers for my deck. So cheerful, like a mini tropical vacation.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 11:03 pm

"Very nice"
I like this one alot. Its maybe a bit early for verdant green pieces, but I feel you on the cabin fever. I would say tone down the light a bunch and make it more emerald colored, not lime colored.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 11:01 pm

Eel River
Finally, Ryan, your "Dark Period" is over! This is the most colorful piece you've done since "Sunburst Daisy." And personally, I love it! Onward, Great Master!

Thu January 24, 2013 at 10:55 pm

I totally feel you on the cabin fever! Illinois has been freezing this week and I NEED sunlight! Thanks for the greenery!

Thu January 24, 2013 at 9:53 pm

Once you tweak it, it's gonna be a place I'd love to be...not loving winter. The only thing missing is floating pollen and bugs and other such tiny details. Although I'm not sure anyone would really miss those except for a night version with fireflies and glowing stuff.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 7:00 pm

On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it an 11.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 4:25 pm

"Looks Great"
I like the look of it and all the green is awesome. Only thing I think could use tweaking is the lighting level. It seems almost to bright in the middle and back and you can't see the detail of the green.I also agree with the looking blurry at the top but that could be due to the lighting.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 3:56 pm

"I feel warmer..."
The idea here is awesome, but, I feel it gets a little blurry and intense towards the "top" of the image and as the depth increases. Maybe have the sunlight be yellow instead of green and sharped the detail in the aforementioned areas. Honestly though, even if you left it as is, it's still great! :)

Thu January 24, 2013 at 3:46 pm

Wow!I love the color green and nature and this has both in abundance!Very beautiful,although I think there's too much light in the middle.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 12:22 am

"A sight for frozen eyes..."
Just got in from an epic commute because of icy rain and accidents everywhere in the middle of a grey fog. This was an instant lift to my dimmed spirit and frazzled nerves. Thank you!!

Thu January 24, 2013 at 11:07 am

"Love it"
Foreground: 11/10. Beautiful. The veins on the leaves is spectacular. The lighting is perfect.

Backgroun: 8/10. The lighting seems to mold it all into a very pastel-like blur. That being said, it looks fantastic, I just prefer crisp lighting where details are enhanced and not muted (like the foreground).

Thu January 24, 2013 at 11:05 am

"I don't see any Poison Ivy ..."
Nice art ... not realistic for Illinois though, because all that undergrowth would be poison ivy! :-D Keep up the good work!

Thu January 24, 2013 at 9:46 am

Love the concept and I would love to be there on a nice hoot day but to my tastes, and others I see, its a bit too green at the top. I think it needs somthing at the top of the picture to break it up a bit. I do like though thats it bright.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 8:58 am

Thats a bit to much green for me, its very busy and the detail upfront is nice it blurs as the depth increases. Also the sun is very indistinct, I would of expected rays in this sort of setting. Not going on my wallpaper this time

Thu January 24, 2013 at 7:19 am

Would be nice if there was a bit more of a hint that a road had been there. Maybe just a couple small spots where the road shows through a little.

Thu January 24, 2013 at 6:39 am

I have to agree, the overall brightness is a bit much and it's washing out the background, maybe if there were more of a canopy overhead filtering out some of the light.....

Wed January 23, 2013 at 10:51 pm

I love the green but parts of this look sort of cartoonish tome so that's why I gave it an 8. And the tree's look not quite right to me in some way maybe to much vegetation on them I don't know.

Wed January 23, 2013 at 10:50 pm

"holy crap green"
Wow. Great potential here, but my eyes are overwhelmed with so much bright green. I would love to see shadows and such like your "Forest Lord" scene. Looking forward to future versions before it goes on my desktop, though it's still downloaded :)

Wed January 23, 2013 at 9:43 pm

Will there possibly be a night version of this? I think there could be a lot of potential for one with moonlight and fireflies.

Wed January 23, 2013 at 9:39 pm

Beer's Law
Absolutely not too green, and definitely what the doctor ordered for cabin fever. It's visually interesting, it tells a story, and we're complaining about the palette? I think we lose some detail & depth in the upper half, but this is very nice. Looking forward to the dual-screens!

Wed January 23, 2013 at 7:42 pm

"So Verdant..."
This is a beautiful lush and lively. My gripes with it are that the light source is far too bright, and I think there needs to be some variance in the type of life showing. Perhaps include a multitude of butterflies?

Wed January 23, 2013 at 7:26 pm

"I love green"
I love the fact that this piece is so green. That said, I agree that it is too bright and so I am greatly looking forward to shadier version 2.0.

Wed January 23, 2013 at 7:09 pm

Laura G.
I don't think it's "too green"-I've been in places that look just like that! Like you're standing inside of a green filter. I did give it a 9 out of 10, though because I hope that the next evolution will have a bit more detail.

Wed January 23, 2013 at 6:56 pm

"Definitely has promise "
I agree with what was said below: Way too green. Also the sun is a bit strong across the top. But, I long for spring, and I look forward to seeing this one develop.

Wed January 23, 2013 at 5:38 pm

I love the overall concept and the detail and colors in the foreground, but the background could use some tweaking. It seems washed out and the plants could use more detail. Looking forward to the next rendering!

Wed January 23, 2013 at 3:37 pm

""a bit too green""
I can certainly sympathize with cabin fever, but I think this one is a bit too much unrelieved green. The little hints of color with the flowers only seem to highlight the overwhelming green. I don't know if making the tree trunks actually brown, or the sky blue might provide a little relief or not. Even the double and triple canopied jungles I have been in are not this green at their "greenest". However I do think with a bit more of something not green I will enjoy this immensely.

Wed January 23, 2013 at 3:31 pm

"Not cool..."
Ryan, it is 9 degrees outside. NINE! This picture reminds me of a steamy warm place and now I am itchin to get out of the cold. Not cool bro, not cool. All kidding aside I rated it a 10 ;)

Wed January 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm

I agree with you actually. I've spent the last two days trying to get the light and shadows right. I decided today, however, that people have waited long enough for a new render...

Wed January 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm

"Sunglasses Please"
I think I need some sunglasses... it's almost too bright... but don't get me wrong, I do really like it. I just think we could turn down the brightness a little.

Wed January 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm

That is like Rawr in your face green. If only that's what I saw outside my window. Love it. Can hardly wait for the multi-screen versions :D

Wed January 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm

Finally found a successor for Sunburst Daisy! Amazing as always Ryan!

Wed January 23, 2013 at 2:05 pm

"Me too!"
Makes me want spring here even more. :)

Wed January 23, 2013 at 1:51 pm

"Something Green"
I'm was tired of the grey and brown outside my window I just had to do something green and colorful. Let me know what you think!

Wed January 23, 2013 at 1:47 pm

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